It wasn’t all smiles and laughs Wednesday afternoon in San Diego as the Mets thanks to a Frankie Rodriguez blown save in the 9th and a mismanaging of the bullpen by Jerry cost the Mets the last game of their road trip 5 to 1 to the Pads.
Johan Santana certainly wasn’t at his best as he was uncharacteristically wild but still fought through it and pitched 7 shutout innings. In a 1-0 game in the 8th, Jerry put in KRod with 2 outs and runner on 2nd. K-Rod got out of the situation but you knew we were in trouble the second he came walking out for the 9th.
Mike Scioscia is often referred to as the best skipper in baseball and he never used K-Rod in two inning situations, however Jerry must have missed that 8 years of baseball history. Frankie promptly gave up a knock, a stolen base and after 2 k’s, David Eckstein delievered to tie the game. The Mets were bailed out as Eckstein was thrown out after Gonzalez got yet another hit.
Jerry then put in Valdez in the 11th and he promptly gave up a knock, they then decided to get Mejia up. If you had a clue you would figure he would have been up in case the lead runner got on. However, that was not the case, without a righty ready the Padres then loaded the bases for Adrian Gonzalez who eats up slow pitching lefties and ripped a game winning grand slam.
More head scratching for us Met fans, we cannot live this up and down roller coaster that is Frankie, and we certainly can not put him in tougher situations in the 8th. I cannot tell you how many times a reliever pitches two innings and screws up. Also, I am sick and tired of Jerry mismanaging game over and over. The Mets are talented and at home can often make up for Jerry’s mistakes by batting last, but it is clear to see Jerry’s managing mistakes cannot be made up on the road, look at the home/road splits. It makes sense to me, this team is not going anywhere until they cut ties with Jerry Manuel.
One last vent….Why send up Matthews in the 9th????? I’d rather see Ollie pinch hit and at least then he’d earn some of that 12 mill.
The Mets may have interchanged some players over the past few seasons but it doesn’t matter. Hell, bring the 1927 Yankees out but have them be led by imbeciles and they would probably struggle. That is exactly what has happened to the Mets. Jerry Manuel was a bad hire from day one, he was here with Willie for the first collapse and led us into the ground for the second one. He was part of one of the most embarrassing times in this franchises history. However, here we are two years later and he is still in charge and our team is still doing nowhere.
After this weekend’s four game sweep in Miami, the Mets have know sunk to last place. Yes, last place with the highest payroll in the division. Take away the 9 and 1 homestand over team that were playing poor (Cubs, Braves, Dodgers) helped Jerry look good and give hope to the Met faithful. However, take away those 10 games and the Mets are 9 and 19. That 9 and 19, I believe is a much more accurate sample of what this team is about. The Mets now are 4 and 12 on the road. This is not acceptable for a team who has a 140 million dollar payroll and just 4 years ago was a few runs from the NL crown.
The overall culture must be changed, the way they can do this is by cleaning house. I would fire every coach that has been on the staff longer then just this season. Everyone including HoJo must go. I would love if Omar was fired too as he needs to go as well but a new attitude must, I mean must be brought into this clubhouse. This is never going to work the way it currently is.
Mr. Wilpon, you want people to attend your games and spend money at your beautiful ballpark? Well send us the fans a message that losing is not acceptible and clean house, fire everyone and tell us that you mean business. And when I say business, the business of winning ballgames, not the business of making money. Or else expect many empty seats for years to come and more financial difficulties, which in turn may lead to what this team really needs, the Wilpon’s going bankrupt and selling the club to someone who actually knows how to run a club.
The Mets are struggling. I guess the only positive that we can take out of this, is that Jerry Manuel should start to feel the heat again. Like I’ve posted on this website, I did not attribute the 9 and 1 homestand to him and still felt like he was incompetent during the winning streak.
This season under Manuel (and Omar and the Wilpon’s), a reoccurring theme is setting in, a day late, a buck short. To me, it almost seems like the Mets hierarchy read what the media prints the team should do. Then they stubbornly say they are not going to do that. Then either a few days later or weeks later they switch their minds after their plan fails and do what the masses want.
Case in point today, Manuel is going to sit Francouer for Chris Carter. Really? It took this long to see Jeff needed a blow. He is batting 5 for 45 this month. He looks like he could not hit a ball with a tennis racket and over the past week I’d have more confidence if we sent Raul Valdez up there to hit for him. When a guy looks absolutely terrible at the plate, you must give him a day off. This move in about 4-5 games way overdue.
This move just goes with the assortment of other head scratching moves the Mets and Manuel have made. First, leaving Davis and Carter off the Opening Day team. Moving Reyes to the third slot, using Nieve and Feliciano every night so they are burned out by mid-May, the kept Ollie in the rotation one too many starts and now put him in the ‘pen. You watch they will cut him eventually like we have said for weeks now.
I think the Mets are starting to show signs of trouble in paradise, I think the players have been effected by managerial decisions and decisions like keeping Perez. I think the fans and players alike, see that baseball decisions are not put first and that this is going to get ugly if the team keeps making decisions like they have this season. I think there is one easy way to get the players back on track and that is FIRE JERRY! Hopefully, the Mets will make this decision eventually, however in my opinion it is many days late already.
It pains me to think that great little run that the Mets went on, as great a run as it was for us to watch, might have locked us into a full season of Jerry Manuel. He was directly over the fires just prior to that run, many saying he might not last the trip, then the team runs off a great string of wins and all the talk went away.
From where I sit the team won despite Jerry Manuel not because of anything he did. He moved Jose Reyes to third and that has pretty much been a failure to this point. He does so many things that drive me crazy. He often makes moves that send the exact wrong message to this team, and often makes so many moves he backs the team into corners they can’t get out of in game.
The way he waved the white flag in the rubber-game against the Phillies was unforgivable. By sitting down Ike Davis and Angel Pagan in favor of Tatis and GMJ is just baffling. This team needed to win that series to validate the great run and to show they were to be taken seriously. But here comes Jerry and by making those moves basically tells the team this game didn’t matter and that it wasn’t important enough to put the best lineup out on the field. To me this is a fire-able offense in it’s own. How an owner could sit there and watch that is beyond me. If an employee of mine was sending that type of message I would definitely have to make a change.
Then just today you watch as he pinch his Catalanato in the seventh inning, only to then take him out in favor of Luis Castillo. Why wouldn’t you just let Castillo bat there? Instead by doing this he used the last bench player, and did I mention Catalanato strike out? This could have been huge when David Wright got himself ejected in the 9th inning and the Mets down a run. Had the Mets tied the game they would have had to embarrassingly trotted out a pitcher to play the field.
How many times do we have to watch Jerry bunt everyone over? The man is bunt crazy. He bunts this team out of innings a lot of times. But there we are bottom of the 9th with no outs and the Mets down by a run. Jason Bay doubles to lead off the inning. David Wright has struck out 4 times and looked lost. Why not bunt Bay over to third here? Wright has been struggling deeply. We’d have the tying run on 3rd with 1 out? For a bunt happy many I have no idea why he didn’t do it. But i can just see him in the dugout going “AH HA – they think I will bunt here, and it’s probably a good play, but I gotta show them how sneaky and smart I am so I am not gonna do it!”
This man is a joke and needs to be gone. I’d love to see someone with some more fire in the dugout. I am tired of his comical press conferences after losses. This team needs to learn that losing is not ok and it wont be tolerated. Until that message is being broadcast we will just be the same old Mets.
I was gonna write this article last night after me and Eddie went back and forth with a few texts, but I decided against not contaminating the excitement of Ike’s Major League premiere with my negative karma. I am gonna wright it now because I feel it’s something that has to be asked, and I’d love to get an answer that’s for sure.
Who exactly has the master plan for the New York Mets? The reason I ask is because this entire debacle at first base stinks of desperation and it really illustrates the lack of an overall plan or strategy by the Mets front office. I feel this is the reason that neither Omar or Jerry should have been brought back this season, you create an environment that undermines them from the get go, because everyone knows they very likely dead-men-walking.
So who is calling the shots? Who is looking out for the Mets best interest long term? I do believe that Omar is trying to do this. I very much expected him to have no problem trading off anything in a win now type of trade, or overspending on free-agent pitching figuring what does he care if it handcuffs the team 5 years down the road … he probably wont be here by then. To his credit he didn’t do this, and I actually felt he did well by staying away from certain players (I felt Lackey was overpriced and too risky a move for the Mets).
With that said I find it hard to believe that Ike Davis has suddenly matured enough to be ready for the Major Leagues after two weeks. I can’t believe that when management said at the end of spring training that Ike needed to see more left-handed pitching, that they were talking about twenty at bats? And exactly who’s idea was it to sit Ike down for over a week at the end of spring training getting no at bats, if he was possibly being called up 2 weeks into the season.
I know nobody can predict the future, but all signs point to the Mets having no desire to call up Ike any time soon, yet here we are in game 12 and Ike has been called up. For the record I think it was the right move, and a good one, but it really makes me wonder just who is the man with the plan here.
I am a lifer. I am a Mets fan for life. I am one of those rare fans that would not mortgage the next five years just to assemble a team for this season. In fact I hate when teams do that. I have to worry about the farm system because those are the guys I will be cheering on in 3-4-5 years. So who is looking out for these things? You know Jerry isn’t. And to be true it’s kind of unrealistic to expect Omar to truly do this given his precarious standing. So who is it? This confusion has me really worried. Is it the Wilpons? Oh please God no. Is it Ricco? Acting in a sort of checks-and-balances fashion with Omar? That might sound good, but then what is the point of having Omar at all? If you have so little confidence in the guy then get rid of him already. All your doing then is turning this Mets job into one that premium candidate’s will not want down the road.
It’s this mixed message we continue to get that worries me deeply. All spring we heard how there was no way Jenrry Mejia would break camp with the club. Yet here he is on the roster. Then we heard all about Ike needing to mature, and face lefties, and polish his fielding, and two weeks later he’s called up. How is it that Ike wasn’t ready to be in the lineup on opening day, yet suddenly he’s ready to be our savior? It doesn’t add up.
I like Ike, and I would much rather watch him learn at first then either Jacobs, Murphy, or Tatis. But the truth is it sure looks like a move of desperation. A franchise that feels it’s losing it’s fan base and sees this as a move to satisfy them, and to draw attention away from other places (did you notice the news breaking of Beltran seeing the Dr. that broke during Ike’s first game? Fishy).
Hopefully I am just being a beaten, cynical Mets fan, but I wasn’t born this way, I was created over many years by our beloved team.
Can anyone out there please explain to me why Jerry Manuel insists on putting Mike Jacobs in the five hole batting in front of Jeff Francouer? I wont get into comparing their stats as it would be a bloodbath.
Does Jerry really think that having Jacobs in the 5 spot protects Jason Bay more then Frenchy batting .450? And we are confused why Bay hasn’t gotten things going yet? Even despite the stats, why would you put a guy who is a career all or nothing hitter in the 5 spot? Makes absolutely no sense to me.
And as I write this post, of course, the Mets get 1st and 3rd with 2 outs and Jacobs walks up to the plate and strikes out meekly. Thanks a lot Jerry, great move.
Can you tell I am so sick of this guy?
Oh and can we please stop hearing you talk about how you want to bat Reyes third? Stop talking about it and do it already so we can move on. You’ve been talking about it for 3 months now.
I am probably gonna get blasted for saying this – but it’s really time for Jerry Manuel to go. I have never liked the guy, I never felt he was a good fit for New York, and I just didn’t care for his style of managing.
Listen; I understand we are 6 games into the new season, and I am not jumping ship. I am just tired of Jerry’s act. It’s not so much that he came out and said the team was “unprepared” to face Livan Hernandez. Do we really need to prepare against a pitcher like Livan Hernandez? Do we need to look at film to know he’s going to throw the 45mph Bugs Bunny curve? Do we need to look at a pitch chart to catch up to his blazing 84 mph fast ball? Give me a break.
Actually it’s not about being unprepared (though it doesn’t help) it’s due to the fact that Jerry still feels the need to baby this team. He seems to want to play the martyr and at this point I say, let him.
This is not a young team. This is not a team of rookies. This is not a playoff team getting off to a bad start. This is a team that has year-in and year-out underperformed. It’s time to treat this team like adults, like men even, and stop covering up for them. Stop babying them. What happens on the field is on them. No two ways about it. When you score 1 run against two pitchers like Nate Robertson and Livan Hernandez there is no where to look but in the mirror.
I have had it with this organization always having an excuse. All spring training we heard about the wind. Curiously it was blowing out when our pitchers were on the mound, and at the same time blowing in when we were at bat? How does that happen?
Enough is enough. Stop sheltering these guys. They are big boys and it’s about time they have to face some of the heat for what has become a running joke around baseball. Perhaps if they had to deal with it day to day like the fans do, they would get fed up and go out with a fire under their ass and play some baseball.
If Jerry isn’t willing to man-up and give this team some tough love, then I say it’s time to find someone who is.
Please have a seat. It’s time we talked man to man about our beloved Mets. It’s spring training, for the other 29 teams it’s a great time of year. As a fan your allowed to dream big, you can imagine your team playing important baseball in September, maybe it’s a playoff run your looking to, maybe it’s even getting all the way to the World Series. It’s all possible in spring training, and that’s why it’s such a cool time of year.
Unless your a Mets fan.
It’s time we took a look at our beloved Mets. We need to realistically start to come to terms that this season is much more likely to be a train-wreck then it is to end in any semblance of pride. The news about Beltran first and now Jose Reyes is like going to a five year old on Christmas eve and telling him Santa doesn’t exist. I feel robbed of my spring dreaming. I knew it was a long shot trust me, but I allowed myself to have hope. To imagine everything actually going right like Omar and the Wilpons have cooked up. It’s time to burst that bubble.
When a guy knows his best-friend’s girlfriend is cheating on him, he doesn’t just sit there and listen to him croon about how in love he is, he sits him down and tells him. It’s to protect him from great pain in the future. Consider this your warning folks. Put down the blue and orange Kool-Aid and listen to me.
Lower your expectations. A lot. We haven’t even had one meaningful pitch yet this season and we have lost arguably our 2 most important players for a long period of time. The Mets are saying Reyes is out for 2-8 weeks. This is a bit misleading from my point of view. The way I read it is he is restricted from physical activities for 2-8 weeks. What are they going to do just toss him back onto Citi Field the day he is cleared? No, he’s going to need at the least a mini-spring training to get into shape. Remember this is a guy coming off leg issues that sidelined him for most of last year, so you absolutely can not rush him. If Reyes is back before June 1st I think we should consider ourselves lucky.
Run through a scenario with me. Lets say Reyes is cleared and good to go by opening day, that’s less then 3 weeks away. He’s now ready to do an extended spring training down in Port St. Lucie to work back into game shape. Jose is the type of guy that wants to get back as soon as possible and want to prove people wrong. Not to mention he’s playing for a contract mind you. Tell me you can’t see the reports now of Jose suffered a setback to his hamstrings because he was working too hard too fast? Remember that Omar and Jerry don’t have the liberty of patience. They absolutely need to be off to a good start, anything less and they could be, should be, gone. There are no excuses this year.
Call me a pessimist but this season is quickly unraveling before our eyes. We are supposed to believe that things can go completely right and we can compete and make the playoffs. Unfortuantely wheels are already flying off! Things are already NOT going right. Now we are expected to compete with Pagan and Cora playing long stints? How long till Cora’s thumbs fall off again? It’s gonna be like domino’s. And that’s not even considering any setbacks by Beltran.
It’s time for us to open our eyes and take a good raw look at this team, even if the management wont. Let them continue to count their billion dollar business on “hopes” and “maybes.” I am starting to feel like we used up all our baseball karma in that Game 6 so many years ago and we have been repaying a deal with the devil ever since.
Both have been performing spectacularly during spring training thus far and there is a lot of excitement surrounding these two.
Everyone loves prospects. They are like that unscratched lottery ticket, they can be anything you want them to be. Unfortunately for the Mets they all too often turn into that scratched ticket that was one liberty bell away from a free soft-drink.
I am not concerned about the merits of either play breaking camp with the big club. What concerns me is my growing fear that the manager and GM don’t exactly have this teams best interest in mind when making these kinds of decisions.
There is no denying that both men are on very hot seats, and they have to get off to a good start this season or their careers in baseball could be over. For an individual that’s a lot at stake. So much in fact, that you will really consider doing anything to give yourself an edge. This is what concerns me, will they decide in favor of a short term solution that may harm the teams overall long term success?
Big picture I would really rather see Mejia and Davis both spend a year down in AAA with the likes of Josh Thole and Fernando Martinez. Letting these guys season down there and learn to be professional athletes will serve them well for years to come. Rushing them up and putting them under the bright lights when they might not be ready could crush their careers (see the vast list of Mets failed “cant miss” and “five tool” prospects from the past).
Could Mejia or Davis make this club? They are sure making a case for it. I’d rather Mejia spend the season being a starter and build a nice base of results for us to make decisions. I do not trust this teams baseball sense to make that decision based on “hunches” or “instincts” or what they see. I want to know he isn’t cut out for the starting pitching role before we convert him. I understand that making him the 8th inning guy wont mean he can never be a starter, but I also don’t want another Joba Chamberlain scenario either. And lets be honest, the 8th inning is a pressure cooker role. It’s not like he’s coming in for mop-up duty. Look what it did for Aaron Heilman, that kid wanted out of New York in the worst way.
I’d probably lean more towards Ike Davis staying up if we had any other use for Murphy. Truth is Murphy can’t play anywhere else and by keeping Davis we are basically giving up on Murphy. Davis is 23 years old so more mature and probably more prepared to handle the New York sports climate. But with all the hype you bestowed on Murphy last year, the Mets owe it to him to give him a shot. Let the guy go out there and see what he can do. Let’s be honest, this isn’t a World Series caliber team anyways, so it’s not like your undermining a potential championship by doing so.
My biggest fear is that Jerry and Omar will make decisions to save their jobs, not to make the Mets a better team big picture. You can’t exactly blame them, but at the same time I really can’t trust them.